Talk:Chrono Cross

Incorrect claim on Cross' development started

Under the Development section, it's said "Square's managers selected a team, appointed Hiromichi Tanaka producer, and asked Kato to direct and develop a new Chrono game in the spirit of Radical Dreamers." Masato Kato actually said that Square approached him to make a game (not a Chrono game) and asked him which game he'd like to make, and he said that he wanted to make a Chrono game from his Radical Dreamers story. Square didn't ask him to develop a new Chrono game, and didn't bring-up Radical Dreamers. 2604:3D08:7483:1200:2549:968E:2AF2:4A13 (talk) 15:22, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

We need a source to add/change things on Wikipedia. What is your source on this? Sergecross73 msg me 17:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

FA sweeps notes

Looks like the following sources would probably not be considered reliable today:

• Chrono Compendium (used multiple times, hosted interviews or game rulebook
• Games are fun is inconclusive at WP:VGRS, likely does not meet the high-quality RS requirement of FA.
• Symphonic Fantasies
• It looks like Square Enix is only considered reliable at VGRS for certain things (staff content and no biographies), needs to be checked to make sure square enix is only being cited for such things.
• N Sider is unreliable.

Needs some work to remove questionable sources and replace with RS, but should be fixable. Hog Farm _Talk 02:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposals are:

• For the Compendium—two of the sources support features of the game that are native to the game, but otherwise do not have a convenient source (there being 12 endings, etc.)—is it OK to just leave these uncited, or cite the game itself? The references were added back in the day just to prevent some cheeky, smug bastard from tacking on a "citation needed" for common knowledge. The Liner Notes citation can be changed to reference the Chrono Cross music release itself, so no problem there. Done (media cite implemented for liner notes)
• Games Are Fun—Simple enough to just change the citation to Deep Labyrinth's own credits/the game release itself Done
• Symphonic Fantasies—I suppose I'll try and find a German news source with a set list evidencing that Chrono Cross was performed Done (forgot, this was recorded and released as a CD with full credits, so that is now the citation)
• I need to check the Final Fantasy featured articles in this case—I suspect that the nature of the citations here (Ultimania/Missing Piece) are consistent with those. These SE publications often contain irreplaceable looks at development history. I need to find the consensus on VG Project... Deferred in line with comments below
• N Sider is only being cited for speculation about the release timing of something that came out a few years ago now, so I will probably just remove the factoid. Deferred - didn't realize, it is supporting Mitsuda's desire to compose for a new Chrono game. Given that the interview literally depicts the interviewer photographed with Mitsuda, I would hope it rises above the typical "fan e-mailed a developer" type self-publications

I'll confirm when these changes have been made. ZeaLitY [ Talk - Activity ] 17:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

There seems to be a little confusion here- Square Enix is reliable, the "staff content and no biographies" is for Square Enix Music Online, which is unrelated to the company (and since renamed to VGMOnline besides). SEMO/VGMO is not used as a source in this article. Speaking of that site, the Symphonic Fantasies article uses it as the source for the setlist, though note that the concert has been performed in 2012 (in Tokyo and Cologne) and 2016 (in Tokyo) as well, and two albums were released, all including the Chrono arrangement. --PresN 19:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I think we generally look the other way on the Chrono Compendium stuff just because we're largely not citing them, but rather, media they've collected, often in the form of print media from reliable sources. Sergecross73 msg me 20:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

WP:URFA/2020

Has everything above been addressed? Concerned about excessive amount of quoted text (should be paraphrased in our own words to a greater extent). David Fuchs are you able to add any assessment for URFA? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

No response, adding to WP:FARGIVEN. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Reviews

• Backstab #24

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