Talk:Pune

Population and area in the infobox

25 February 2023 version	5 March 2023 version	Version supported by existing citations	Version supported by citation used in the lead
Pune Area  • City limits 400 km2 (200 sq mi)  • Metro 7,256.4 km2 (2,801.7 sq mi) Elevation 560 m (1,840 ft) Population  (2020)  • City limits 3,400,000  • Metro 7,541,946	Pune Area  • City limits 513 km2 (198 sq mi)  • Metro 7,256.4 km2 (2,801.7 sq mi) Elevation 560 m (1,840 ft) Population  (2020)  • City 8,400,000  • Megapolis PMRDA 11,480,787[Excluding PCMC]	Pune Area  • Pune MC 331.26 km2 (127.90 sq mi)  • Pune MR 7,256.46 km2 (2,801.73 sq mi) Elevation 560 m (1,840 ft) Population  • Pune MR 7,276,000	Pune Area  • Pune MC 516.18 km2 (199.30 sq mi)  • Pune MR 7,256.46 km2 (2,801.73 sq mi) Elevation 560 m (1,840 ft) Population  • Pune MC 6,200,000  • Pune MR 7,276,000

References

The 2018 archived version of citation 3 says that the area of Pune Metropolitan Region Development Authority is/was 7,256.46 Sq Km, the population: 72.76 Lakhs (Approx), and the number of Municipal Corporations: 2. We have to use an archived version because you get an error if we use the old URL.

People are changing the data without bothering to provide sources. Both versions appear to be unreliable.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Citation 2 is a newspaper article dated 6 October 2017 (so it cannot support 2020 data). It says that the area of the city of Pune has increased "with the addition of 80.7 sqkm and a population of 2.78 lakh".-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:44, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Citation 4 and 7 are both to the same newspaper article from 18 January 2018, which says that Pune metropolitan region had an area of "a little over 7,000 sqkm."-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Citation 5 is to the 2011 Census Handbook. It cannot support 2020 figures.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Citations 1 and 6 are to the same newspaper article from 7 October 2017. it says that Pune Municipal Corporation's limits have been expanded from 250.56 sqkm to 331.26 sq km, along with the addition of 2.78 lakh people.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:53, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Note that this is an article about the city of Pune. There is a separate article for Pune district. I think some editors have not realised this, which is why we have some population figure that resemble the district population.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:07, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

We also have articles on Pune Metropolitan Region and Pune Metropolitan Region Development Authority. The data we should be most interested in for the article on Pune, is data on the city, which probably means the area governed by the municipal corporation.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:22, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The lead claims 8.4 million

The lead has this: an estimated population of 8.4 million as of 2020.

References

• Citation 1 is a news article from 1 July 2021, which says "The state govt on Wednesday issued an order for extending the boundaries of Pune Municipal Corporation (PMC) to include 23 new villages in the existing city limits. Now, Pune will have a geographical area of 516.18 sq km"
• Citation 2 is another news article from 1 July 2021, which says "With its new urban city limits, Pune has now become the seventh largest city in India, with the geographical area of 516.18 sq km (from 331 sq km)." "The population of Pune is around 62 lakh, as per the FY21 presentation made by the PMC Commissioner. Pune has five zones, 15 wards and 42 divisions."
• Citation 3 is a news article from 30 September 2016, which says nothing about the population size or the area of the city.
• Citation 4 is a news article from April 2016 about cities changing their names, i.e. that "Pune" has been used for "Poona" since 1978. (Evidently someone keeps updating the article - web archive has a version giving the date as 25 April 2016. Maybe the citation is right in saying that the original date was 13 April 2016.

Citation 2 has information that can improve the infobox. It might be added that citation templates do not seem to have been done very well.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@Willondon: I cleaned up the lead and the infobox with respect of population and area on 6 March. But I take your point about the citations being confusing in the lead, so I have changed the positions of the citations in the first sentence:

Pune (Marathi: [puɳe] ^ⓘ; English: /ˈpuːnə/), also previously known as Poona, (the official name from 1818 until 1978) is one of the most important industrial and educational hubs of India, with an estimated population of 6,200,000.

References

As mentioned on 6 March, the CNBC TV18 article of 1 July 2021 says: "With its new urban city limits, Pune has now become the seventh largest city in India, with the geographical area of 516.18 sq km (from 331 sq km)." "The population of Pune is around 62 lakh, as per the FY21 presentation made by the PMC Commissioner. Pune has five zones, 15 wards and 42 divisions." 62 lakh = 6,200,000. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Pronounciation

There seems to be a descrepancy between the phoentically spelled ˈpuːnə and the audio recording of the city's pronounciation. How should this contradiction be resolved? schetm (talk) 18:33, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Pune Metro

I believe the section on Pune Metro needs to be constantly updated to reflect progress of construction and opening of new services. Any help from fellow editors would be most welcome.Thanks. Jonathansammy (talk) 16:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Inconsistency in earliest reference

first paragraph in Etymology section mentions 10th century as the earliest reference to the city.

second paragraph lists two dates from 8th century for an already established city. which of these is the correct earliest reference for the city? 188.167.97.197 (talk) 22:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)